Media + Tech = Negative CAC

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Todayā€™s piece is a fun one. Something Iā€™ve been really thinking hard about for the last couple of years. Creators and how they are slowly taking over the B2B landscape. I think if you are a founder and you are not building your media slash creator strategy, you are going to fail in the coming years. More on that later.

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TL;DR ME šŸ™„

  • Negative CAC through media and tech. Smart companies are reducing their customer acquisition costs by integrating with creator brands, effectively turning lead generation into a profit centre.

  • Understand CAC and why it matters. Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) is a critical metric for business health, impacting profitability, growth potential, and if a VC will fund you in 2024.

  • The rise of the creator economy. Influencers and creators are reshaping marketing strategies. They are leveraging authentic engagement and vast reach into products to serve their audiences.

  • Case studies of success. Companies like HubSpot and Robinhood are leveraging media acquisitions and creator partnerships to achieve negative CAC.

  • Future of media and tech integrations. The intersection of media and tech is evolving, with new tools and strategies emerging to further reduce CAC and enhance customer engagement.

THE CURRICULUM šŸ“š

Media + Tech = Negative CAC

The marketing and communications landscape is changing. It happened with B2C a decade ago with the nauseating rise of the influencer. Now itā€™s happening in tech. This time with the creator economy movement.

Traditional media has been in structural decline for years, while new mediaā€”podcasts, communities, blogs and newslettersā€”is here, and it is thriving.

Breaking news.

This matters because we, as leaders, need to know where to spend our budgets in the best way possible. We need to know where we have the greatest chance at turning $1 into $5. It used to be Facebook Ads, before that it was grey hatting your SEO. Cold outbound at scale worked wonders for years.

Brett Adcock, founder of red hot robotics company, Figure, had his first acquisition (~$100M) on the back of outbound email.

He has teams in the Philippines scraping data 24/7 and smashing send until their fingers bled.

Figure.ai v1.2.

There have always been channels for a smart founder to go and exploit. In other words, you always knew how to grow. But now those dollars that get pumped into the Meta machine donā€™t come out as $5, they come out as $1 dollar and 10 cents.

In todayā€™s piece we aim to demystify the creator channel, and show you how it may be possible for you to aim for negative CAC in the not too distant future.

Understand CAC and why it matters

CAC, or customer acquisition costs, isnā€™t rocket science. Itā€™s the art dividing the expenses to acquire customers, mainly the cost of sales and marketing, by the total number of customers acquired over a given period. Having said that, CAC is more important than ever today.

In the last decade, as we went through the ZIRP period, the rhetoric was growth at all costs wins. Blitzscaling was being fetishised from San Francisco to Saint Petersburg. Companies like Fast were out there burning $120M to get to $600k of revenue. Those days are dead.

CAC then.

CAC now.

Today, money is not cheap, but expensive. Growth is not given, it is earned. And how much money you spend to land Acme Corp really does matter. This is where creators come into our story, and the idea of owning your audience.

Case studies: companies building through creators and vice versa

Letā€™s take a look at a few differing examples of companies that are building through creators, and conversely, some creators that are leveraging their own audiences to build big companies of their own.

Hubspot

In early 2021, in peak mania, Hubspot announced an acquisition that may have seemed odd to some. One of the leaders in CRM and marketing automations was buying The Hustleā€”a daily newsletter?

Although itā€™s not your typical tech acquisition, it made great financial sense. If youā€™re selling software, you are working with customers who more than likely have an incredibly high lifetime value.

Not only had they purchased one of the largest newsletters in the world, they also snared the My First Million podcast, which happens to be one of the most popular podcasts in the world, hosted by Sam Parr and Shaan Puri.

My First Million is kinda like the Joe Rogan Experience of business. Very loose, lots of banter, and with a broad listenership. Perfect for Hubspot, whose customer skew SMB.

Following this acquisition, in an incredibly crowded space where the cost to acquire customers is intensely competitive, Hubspot now have two owned media assets. And these assets will continue to drive revenue and brand value to Hubspot over the short to medium term.

This is not really out of character for Hubspot who have always chosen to not have to fight for every dollar on Google and Meta.

Hubspot has executed as well as anyone in the world when it comes to content marketing.

Holy smokes.

Take a look at Ahrefs and youā€™ll see that HubSpot gets 12.3M monthly organic users into their website every month from their content strategy. This is just an extension of that.

Following the success of My First Million, Hubspot built out the Hubspot Podcast Network, which now boasts a total of 34 podcast. Incredible.

The many agencies of Sahil Bloom

Sahil Bloom, the ultimate threadboi cum business mastermind, has single-handedly turned has massive Twitter following into a portfolio of cash flowing businesses generating more than $10M in annual revenue.

Dr Octoagency.

Sahil, up until quite recently, was working in private equity. So rather than partner with large brands, or be acquired into big tech, he decided the better option was to take his influence and plow it into his own ventures. Some of which you can see below.

He built creator themed agencies. Most of which are selling done-for-you packages, using offshore talent to power it in the backend. The incredible thing about Sahil is he only wrote his first Twitter thread in May of 2020.

His growth has compounded incredibly in a very small window of time. You can only imaging what his audience will be in 3-5 more years.

All of that funnelling top of funnel impressions for his many brands.

Sahil owns every one of the agencies mentioned, and runs ads for partners inside of his newsletter. This is the first instance of negative CAC we will hear today. Itā€™s feasible that with every newsletter send Sahil could sell tens of thousands in ad inventory and drive tens of thousands of value to his companies at the same time. Negative CAC.

Robinhood eats up MarketSnacks

When Robinhood snapped up MarketSnacks in 2019, it wasnā€™t just a casual foray into content; it was a calculated move to turn passive users into engaged, informed investors. MarketSnacks, known for its witty, accessible takes on financial news, seamlessly morphed into Robinhood Snacks.

This integration meant that every Robinhood user now had a financial guru in their pocket, translating Wall Street jargon into everyday language for 10ā€™s of millions of subscribers. Imagine getting your daily market updates with the same ease and humour as scrolling through your social feedā€”thatā€™s the Robinhood Snacks effect.

Since then Robinhood has launched an independent media arm, Sherwood Media, led by co-founder and former editor-in-chief of The Verge, Joshua Topolsky. Sherwood, which not only houses Snacks, also just acquired Chartr, a company specializing in data visualizations and it plans to integrate into, you guessed it, Snacks.

In June of 2023, the company said it planned to expand to events, podcasts and build out a print magazine.

Jimmy Donaldson aka MrBeast

MrBeast first uploaded a video at 13 years old. It was a nonsensical, un-engaging two-minute Minecraft play through. You would never have assumed that video would be the spark that catalysed the transition of little Jimmy Donaldson, into the 266M subscriber, MrBeast, as we know him today.

Leveraging the power of his audience, MrBeast recently launched Feastables, a line of high-quality, ethically produced snack products, starting with the humble chocolate bar.

Feastables aligns well with MrBeast's brand by focusing on fun, engaging marketing and superior product quality.

Launched in January 2022, Feastables purportedly generated $10 million in revenue within just a few months. By the end of 2023, the brand was on track to deliver $200 million in revenueā€‹.

Not bad for a 26 year old YouTuber.

And my company, Athyna

At Athyna, we have been leaning heavily into the idea of growth through creators. Firstly through me and this newsletter. The very fact that you are reading these words right now probably has you thinkingā€”ā€™hmm, yes I have been meaning to reach out about hiring through Athyna.ā€™

See what I did there.

If not, thatā€™s ok. But it does help and it is working. This newsletter, Open Source CEO, is not owned by Athyna. Itā€™s a separate company. But with 30k subscribers in the first year you can assume this newsletter might get to 100k within the first two. And maybe 200k the year after that.

That gives me a phenomenal media assetā€”a great company in itā€™s own rightā€”that through good, engaging content, funnels leads into my other company, Athyna. Itā€™s not exactly negative CAC but it would be if Athyna was the owner.

The other place we are investing energy is into a creator program. Our recent cap was mostly led by creators. We now have ~15 of the worldā€™s biggest and/or fastest growing B2B creators as investors in Athyna.

We think that while our competitors are battling it out, digitally trying to make 10c on each dollar, we will make a 10-100x return on our partnership with our creators. The upside is endless.

Other movements in the space

But thatā€™s not it. Companies all over the map are scooping up media. Take the Pendo purchase of Mind the Product for example, the premier brand for 300,000 product managers, designers, and developers.

They own conferences, content, newsletters, communities, and more.

Now Pendo, a company whose tagline on Crunchbase reads; ā€˜Pendo, the all-in-one product experience platform,ā€™ owns this asset.

Pendoā€™s product suite.

Take a look at this list of other recent acquisitions. Tech acquisitions of value add media and community brands.

Company

Target

Media

Stripe

Indie Hackers

Founder community

Pendo

Mind the Product

Product community

Outreach

Sales Hacker

Sales content site

Semrush

Backlinko

SEO blog & newsletter

Penn Gaming

Barstool Sports

Sports and culture community

Mailchimp

Courier

Monthly business mag

Zapier

Makerpad

No-code community

Amplitude

Data-led Academy

Data tools & resources

DigitalOcean

CSS-Tricks

Developer blog

Admittedly, more than one of these acquisitions has been spun back out or re-purchasedā€”most famously by Dave Portnoy buying Barstool back for $1ā€”but the point remains. More and more companies are acquiring media brands.

The future of CAC and creators

All-In podcast co-host David Friedberg said recently that; ā€œIn 30 years time all traditional brands will be dead.ā€ And I tend to believe him. As more techno-first, social-native youngsters grow up into the next generation of decision makers, more and more old media will recede into memory.

Relevance = 2/10.

In the not too distant future; media will be led by humans, not brands. Creators will spawn businesses as fast as the algorithm refreshes, and who knows, maybe the first TikTok star will run for office. The future is coming fast, be ready.

How you can apply this

  • Set your strategy. Decide whether you want to build, partner or buy. Build is slow, partnering has lower upside and buying is expensive. All can work, the first step is to identify which fits for you.

Source; Kyle Poyar.

  • Then go and execute. The key here is to get start on a creator strategy. Ideally itā€™s owned media. Buying or building. Then you are in control of your own destiny. The new age SEO.

Further study

And thatā€™s it! Now get out their and start building, buying or partnering with your own media brands.

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Love this from Blackbird co-founder, Niki Scevak, this week.

Sponsored by Feastables, haha.

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